partition sizes

Hi,
Want to install Vista on it's own partition as dual boot with XP, question is for Vista (or XP on it's own for that matter), how big should I make this partition if it is to be the OS only with all programmes etc on a separate partition and files on yet another??
Thanks
Ridesy

"Ridesy" wrote in message

Hi,
Want to install Vista on it's own partition as dual boot with XP, question is for Vista (or XP on it's own for that matter), how big should I make this partition if it is to be the OS only with all programmes etc on a separate partition and files on yet another??
Thanks
Ridesy

40GB with at least 15GB free.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/capable.mspx

Ridesy wrote:

Hi,
Want to install Vista on it's own partition as dual boot with XP, question is for Vista (or XP on it's own for that matter), how big should I make this partition if it is to be the OS only with all programmes etc on a separate partition and files on yet another??
Thanks
Ridesy

I have Vista on a 20 GB hard drive. With Office 2007 it's almost full, ~6 GB free. I wouldn't go any less than 20 GB. Why install programs on a seperate partition? There is no advantage to this. If the OS gets corrupted you will need to reinstall or restore both partitions.
-- Kerry MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User www.VistaHelp.ca

My Vista 'test' partition is like Kerry's 20GB. Although i haven't put all of Office 2007 on. I simply install the applications i use the most. However, the full version of Office 2007 is on my Windows XP partition> the XP partition is 30GB. I also agree with Kerry regarding installing programs on a seperate partition. There is certainly no value in it at all.
-- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
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"Kerry Brown" wrote in message

Ridesy wrote: Hi,
Want to install Vista on it's own partition as dual boot with XP, question is for Vista (or XP on it's own for that matter), how big should I make this partition if it is to be the OS only with all programmes etc on a separate partition and files on yet another??
Thanks
Ridesy
I have Vista on a 20 GB hard drive. With Office 2007 it's almost full, ~6 GB free. I wouldn't go any less than 20 GB. Why install programs on a seperate partition? There is no advantage to this. If the OS gets corrupted you will need to reinstall or restore both partitions.
-- Kerry MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User www.VistaHelp.ca

The only value of having your applications on a separate partitions is if you Image your partition as backups. It makes the images smaller and manageable. You can fit them on a DVD. I always operate with a 3-partitions (OS, Apps & Data). Many times, I've had a problem that only a restore from an image would fix. Just my 2 cents worth.
"John Barnett MVP" wrote in message

My Vista 'test' partition is like Kerry's 20GB. Although i haven't put all of Office 2007 on. I simply install the applications i use the most. However, the full version of Office 2007 is on my Windows XP partition the XP partition is 30GB. I also agree with Kerry regarding installing programs on a seperate partition. There is certainly no value in it at all.
-- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
The information in this mail is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail..
"Kerry Brown" wrote in message Ridesy wrote: Hi,
Want to install Vista on it's own partition as dual boot with XP, question is for Vista (or XP on it's own for that matter), how big should I make this partition if it is to be the OS only with all programmes etc on a separate partition and files on yet another??
Thanks
Ridesy
I have Vista on a 20 GB hard drive. With Office 2007 it's almost full, ~6 GB free. I wouldn't go any less than 20 GB. Why install programs on a seperate partition? There is no advantage to this. If the OS gets corrupted you will need to reinstall or restore both partitions.
-- Kerry MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User www.VistaHelp.ca

Is the Office 2007 beta still available for download? I plan to install my Vista on 30GB partition and might as well install Office 2007. Thanks
"John Barnett MVP" wrote in message

My Vista 'test' partition is like Kerry's 20GB. Although i haven't put all of Office 2007 on. I simply install the applications i use the most. However, the full version of Office 2007 is on my Windows XP partition the XP partition is 30GB. I also agree with Kerry regarding installing programs on a seperate partition. There is certainly no value in it at all.
-- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
The information in this mail is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail..
"Kerry Brown" wrote in message Ridesy wrote: Hi,
Want to install Vista on it's own partition as dual boot with XP, question is for Vista (or XP on it's own for that matter), how big should I make this partition if it is to be the OS only with all programmes etc on a separate partition and files on yet another??
Thanks
Ridesy
I have Vista on a 20 GB hard drive. With Office 2007 it's almost full, ~6 GB free. I wouldn't go any less than 20 GB. Why install programs on a seperate partition? There is no advantage to this. If the OS gets corrupted you will need to reinstall or restore both partitions.
-- Kerry MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User www.VistaHelp.ca

Yes, Office Beta is still available for download from MSFT. You should be able to find in three clicks.
-- Mark
My favourite so far: Unknown device has been correctly installed.
"JCO" wrote in message

Is the Office 2007 beta still available for download? I plan to install my Vista on 30GB partition and might as well install Office 2007. Thanks
"John Barnett MVP" wrote in message My Vista 'test' partition is like Kerry's 20GB. Although i haven't put all of Office 2007 on. I simply install the applications i use the most. However, the full version of Office 2007 is on my Windows XP partition the XP partition is 30GB. I also agree with Kerry regarding installing programs on a seperate partition. There is certainly no value in it at all.
-- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
The information in this mail is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail..
"Kerry Brown" wrote in message Ridesy wrote: Hi,
Want to install Vista on it's own partition as dual boot with XP, question is for Vista (or XP on it's own for that matter), how big should I make this partition if it is to be the OS only with all programmes etc on a separate partition and files on yet another??
Thanks
Ridesy
I have Vista on a 20 GB hard drive. With Office 2007 it's almost full, ~6 GB free. I wouldn't go any less than 20 GB. Why install programs on a seperate partition? There is no advantage to this. If the OS gets corrupted you will need to reinstall or restore both partitions.
-- Kerry MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User www.VistaHelp.ca

You still have to restore both the OS and Apps at the same time or there is a serious risk of some apps having incorrect registry settings, wrong dlls etc. All the imaging software I've used has some mechanism for splitting images over several DVDs.
-- Kerry MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User www.VistaHelp.ca

JCO wrote:

The only value of having your applications on a separate partitions is if you Image your partition as backups. It makes the images smaller and manageable. You can fit them on a DVD. I always operate with a 3-partitions (OS, Apps & Data). Many times, I've had a problem that only a restore from an image would fix. Just my 2 cents worth.
"John Barnett MVP" wrote in message My Vista 'test' partition is like Kerry's 20GB. Although i haven't put all of Office 2007 on. I simply install the applications i use the most. However, the full version of Office 2007 is on my Windows XP partition> the XP partition is 30GB. I also agree with Kerry regarding installing programs on a seperate partition. There is certainly no value in it at all.
-- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
The information in this mail is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail..
"Kerry Brown" wrote in message Ridesy wrote: Hi,
Want to install Vista on it's own partition as dual boot with XP, question is for Vista (or XP on it's own for that matter), how big should I make this partition if it is to be the OS only with all programmes etc on a separate partition and files on yet another??
Thanks
Ridesy
I have Vista on a 20 GB hard drive. With Office 2007 it's almost full, ~6 GB free. I wouldn't go any less than 20 GB. Why install programs on a seperate partition? There is no advantage to this. If the OS gets corrupted you will need to reinstall or restore both partitions.
-- Kerry MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User www.VistaHelp.ca

I'm not arguing with the use of imaging for backups. I do it myself. I just don't see any sense in separating Apps from the OS. To each their own. If it works for you then that's great.
-- Kerry MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User www.VistaHelp.ca

JCO wrote:

Your right for the most part. But if you manage it correctly, it can be a simple task. Sometimes, when you know you have not added any programs... you can only restore the one partition. It's also a good idea to have a text file handy, with the image. Each time something is done to your system, you document it. That way, when you do a restore, you will know what program was installed after the image was taken. Of course you want to update the images every so often and after any major programs have been installed.
I'm not saying its an easy thing to do. I've just been through so much in the years that I now know what I have to do to make it work. Imaging of your partitions is a great method to stay a head of the game.

"Kerry Brown" wrote in message You still have to restore both the OS and Apps at the same time or there is a serious risk of some apps having incorrect registry settings, wrong dlls etc. All the imaging software I've used has some mechanism for splitting images over several DVDs.
-- Kerry MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User www.VistaHelp.ca

JCO wrote: The only value of having your applications on a separate partitions is if you Image your partition as backups. It makes the images smaller and manageable. You can fit them on a DVD. I always operate with a 3-partitions (OS, Apps & Data). Many times, I've had a problem that only a restore from an image would fix. Just my 2 cents worth.
"John Barnett MVP" wrote in message My Vista 'test' partition is like Kerry's 20GB. Although i haven't put all of Office 2007 on. I simply install the applications i use the most. However, the full version of Office 2007 is on my Windows XP partition> the XP partition is 30GB. I also agree with Kerry regarding installing programs on a seperate partition. There is certainly no value in it at all.
-- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
The information in this mail is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail..
"Kerry Brown" wrote in message Ridesy wrote: Hi,
Want to install Vista on it's own partition as dual boot with XP, question is for Vista (or XP on it's own for that matter), how big should I make this partition if it is to be the OS only with all programmes etc on a separate partition and files on yet another??
Thanks
Ridesy
I have Vista on a 20 GB hard drive. With Office 2007 it's almost full, ~6 GB free. I wouldn't go any less than 20 GB. Why install programs on a seperate partition? There is no advantage to this. If the OS gets corrupted you will need to reinstall or restore both partitions.
-- Kerry MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User www.VistaHelp.ca

Your right for the most part. But if you manage it correctly, it can be a simple task. Sometimes, when you know you have not added any programs... you can only restore the one partition. It's also a good idea to have a text file handy, with the image. Each time something is done to your system, you document it. That way, when you do a restore, you will know what program was installed after the image was taken. Of course you want to update the images every so often and after any major programs have been installed.
I'm not saying its an easy thing to do. I've just been through so much in the years that I now know what I have to do to make it work. Imaging of your partitions is a great method to stay a head of the game.

"Kerry Brown" wrote in message

You still have to restore both the OS and Apps at the same time or there is a serious risk of some apps having incorrect registry settings, wrong dlls etc. All the imaging software I've used has some mechanism for splitting images over several DVDs.
-- Kerry MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User www.VistaHelp.ca

JCO wrote: The only value of having your applications on a separate partitions is if you Image your partition as backups. It makes the images smaller and manageable. You can fit them on a DVD. I always operate with a 3-partitions (OS, Apps & Data). Many times, I've had a problem that only a restore from an image would fix. Just my 2 cents worth.
"John Barnett MVP" wrote in message My Vista 'test' partition is like Kerry's 20GB. Although i haven't put all of Office 2007 on. I simply install the applications i use the most. However, the full version of Office 2007 is on my Windows XP partition> the XP partition is 30GB. I also agree with Kerry regarding installing programs on a seperate partition. There is certainly no value in it at all.
-- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
The information in this mail is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail..
"Kerry Brown" wrote in message Ridesy wrote: Hi,
Want to install Vista on it's own partition as dual boot with XP, question is for Vista (or XP on it's own for that matter), how big should I make this partition if it is to be the OS only with all programmes etc on a separate partition and files on yet another??
Thanks
Ridesy
I have Vista on a 20 GB hard drive. With Office 2007 it's almost full, ~6 GB free. I wouldn't go any less than 20 GB. Why install programs on a seperate partition? There is no advantage to this. If the OS gets corrupted you will need to reinstall or restore both partitions.
-- Kerry MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User www.VistaHelp.ca

i have a 15 gb partition and been running for a while and have 4gb free after disk cleanup (2.5gb before, lots of thumbnails and error reports) i install nothing on this partition exept for updates, swap file, my documents and ORB. it is simply a operating system partition. for my programs i have them installed on a raid array set to R: (you could use a partition with no OS if you wanted) and programs will run in xp and vista being installed on both os's for some, but with most programs i only needed to installed in xp or vista. it is set as R: for both xp and vista.this is the way to go as far as im concerned. i would not go less than 15gb for a os only partition! vista is currently taking up 11gb (for those that cant do math) and it will need alot more once updates and service packs start rolling in. i have a raid array because of media center, but for the gb deprived i would say 13 is the absolute minimum! ps you dont have to reinstall most programs (Kerry Brown) a few yes, but the most will work if installed on the non os drive. those that dont usualy have a repair on the uninstall program that will fix it if not.

Tommy. I have experimented several times with moving nearly 500 programs. You can install progams to your non-Vista or non-XP drive and most will work fine, but some will insist on forcing some files to the C:\ drive or XP drive. When you copy/move programs installed from one disk to another, some will break. Office 2003 at the time before I could get my hands on 2007,asked for a repair and I repaired it quickly with Detect and Rapair (things aren't always that rosy with Detect and Repair).
I experimented with this and had most programs installed to E:\. I copied them and most made the move fine. 10 had to be reinstalled--Office fixed with Detect and Repair.
Currently on a dual boot with XP and Vista 5536 pre-RC1 foreplay before Labor day, I find that I can drag a few porgrams from the F:\drive onto the Vista DT and run them from Vista. Adaware is one that runs fine. Many won't run in Vista without being installed from Vista. Office is an example. One Note tries to set up but says it needs files and even if supplied it won't setup on Vista without being installed there.
Some programs will run on Vista when started from another drive, and a lot won't.
As to accessing XP I can access most of it--although to get into some folders you have to go through a lot of bureaucratic UAC hoops but once you get used to some of them they don't take long. UAC is a long way from smart deployment, and I don't think MSFT is ever going to get there. A lot of people won[t use it.
I haven't turned it off since 5536 got installed on this box last week, and I want to see if I can run with it full on.
CH

"Tommy_wt" wrote in message

i have a 15 gb partition and been running for a while and have 4gb free after disk cleanup (2.5gb before, lots of thumbnails and error reports) i install nothing on this partition exept for updates, swap file, my documents and ORB. it is simply a operating system partition. for my programs i have them installed on a raid array set to R: (you could use a partition with no OS if you wanted) and programs will run in xp and vista being installed on both os's for some, but with most programs i only needed to installed in xp or vista. it is set as R: for both xp and vista.this is the way to go as far as im concerned. i would not go less than 15gb for a os only partition! vista is currently taking up 11gb (for those that cant do math) and it will need alot more once updates and service packs start rolling in. i have a raid array because of media center, but for the gb deprived i would say 13 is the absolute minimum! ps you dont have to reinstall most programs (Kerry Brown) a few yes, but the most will work if installed on the non os drive. those that dont usualy have a repair on the uninstall program that will fix it if not.